RESEARCH to be involved in all of the goals.188 However, the approach of being involved in all goals as explained by Diani Sadiawati and Indriana Nugraheni is leaning towards the optimization of the NCHR roles in the Goal 16 which could encourage the implementation of other goals in the SDGs.189 Beka Ulung Hapsara reminded that human rights actually have a broader scope than the law and justice. However, it is also important to note that in the NCHR External FGD, Indriana Nugraheni stated her openness if the NCHR is formally positioned in all goals, provided that it comes with several notes.190 In the NCHR External FGD, the respondents were asked through the questionnaires, whether they think that the NCHR needs to be actively involved in achieving all goals in the SDGs by correlating them with human rights. From ten respondents who answered the questionnaire, nine answered yes (90%), and only one respondent answered no (10%). The respondent who answered no was Theresia Iswarini National Commission on the Violence Against Women, she stated that it cannot be construed as the NCHR’s area of work and rather direct the responsibility of the SDGs to the government—although Theresia Iswarini also stated that the NCHR is ideally placed in a position to be involved in all goals of the SDGs.191 Furthermore, she also questioned the NCHR’s capability in the event that the NCHR is involved in all of the goals.192 With respect to the question on whether or not the NCHR will be capable in handling the responsibility, Indriana Nugraheni stated that the inclusion of the NCHR to all of the goals of the SDGs comes with consequences, hence, the NCHR must also be prepared, for instance to execute programs deriving from those goals.193 Indriana Nugraheni also affirmed the importance of internal reinforcement in the NCHR towards the SDGs and human rights.194 Muhamad Isnur from the Indonesian Legal Aid Foundation (YLBHI) also said a similar statement, the NCHR needs to measure its own capacity if they were to handle all goals in the SDGs and he reminded to refer to the strategic plan.195 Wahyu Susilo from the Migrant CARE delivered an interesting point based on his experience in managing matters related to the SDGs, in practice, the human rights aspect is not the priority in the discussion of certain SDGs, for instance, matters related to maritime issues.196 Wahyu Susilo stated that the NCHR could be involved in this gap by providing technical supports.197 The involvement of the NCHR in the gap of human rights was also endorsed by Shevierra Danmadiyah from ELSAM.198 188 (1) Letter Number: 022/SA.04.ND/01/2021 from Diani Sadiawati (Expert Staff for the Minister of National Development Planning) (n. 162); and (2) Written Statement from the National Secretariat of the SDGs (n. 162). 189 (1) Ibid; and (2) NCHR External FGD (n. 8). 190 NCHR External FGD (n. 8). 191 Ibid. 192 Ibid. 193 Ibid. 194 (1) Written Statement from the National Secretariat of the SDGs (n. 162); and (2) NCHR External FGD (n. 8). 195 Ibid. 196 Ibid. 197 Ibid. 198 Ibid. 27