appeared to be a lack of communication between agencies. 72 Secretary-General Ho Shih-chieh observed that vessel owners have gradually become more accepting of labor inspections. He hoped the Fisheries Agency would promptly provide feedback on areas needing improvement onboard after an inspection. In an interview, he offered suggestions for improving labor inspection procedures. First, avoid conducting inspections during busy times, such as when fishing vessels have just docked or are preparing to depart, as crews are typically occupied with unloading or resupplying. Second, interviewers must exercise patience and engage in multiple rounds of communication with captains and crew members to ensure they fully understand the interviewees’ responses and intentions. He provided an example regarding misunderstandings about passports: “If you ask a crew member whether they have their passport with them, they will often say no. Why? If you mark this down without further inquiry, it would be inaccurate. If you ask why they don’t have their passport, and they reply that the vessel owner took it, it could lead to further misunderstandings. But if the crew explains that the owner is handling their immigration paperwork, the situation becomes clear. Some crew members prefer not to keep their passports on them, fearing that their passport, watch, or phone might be thrown into the sea in case of disputes. Valuable items like passports are often entrusted to the captain for safekeeping. Inspectors should ask professionally, such as, 'When you need your passport, can you access it?' If they say yes, then there’s no issue. If they say no, that’s a big concern.”73 NHRC (January 6, 2023). “Actions and Dialogues on Human Rights Issues of Migrant Fishers: Stakeholder Forum,” Record of Kaohsiung Session. 73 NHRC (March 17, 2023). “Interview with TTA Secretary-General Ho Shih-chieh.” 72 75