overcrowding and sharing programs and its strategic plan up to 2024 and setting up engagement with international bodies showing their efforts to improve their prison. Datuk Lok Yim Pheng thank everyone who shared the information as references and to move forward for a better future of the prison reform. I. Dines Ragu from FMT, how much priority that Parliament places on prison reforms, and from government since you have mentioned about difficulties in pushing reforms due to lack of funds for the prison department. While it is a tough task for Parliamentarians to defend the prison reforms, but it is the responsibility of Parliamentarians. Without changing the nature of sentencing and community rehabilitation, reform cannot be achieved. II. Afiq from SUHAKAM, this question was for Malaysia and Indonesia since we both have dual legal systems. Under Section 66 of the Syariah Criminal Procedure (State of Malacca) Enactment 2002, apostacy is criminalised and the punishment for the attempt of apostacy is detention at the Pusat Tahanan Islam. This is against the Articles in the Federal Constitution. What to do? Only Aceh, Indonesia has Shariah law because it is the result of the peace agreement with Aceh. Indonesia found some human rights violations especially to women and children. They have criticized them and trying to provide solutions. Last month they had a discussion with law enforcement agencies to bring them toward the international human rights standards. Evolving criminal justice system involves many institutions. To reform the criminal justice system is another strategic issue included in their programs run by KOMNAS-HAM. III. Sue Ling, Buddhist Missionary Society was impressed by the representative from CHRP whereby she presented that Philippines includes the access of religious practices in prison. She was impressed about prisoners were able to take exams for Islamic and Buddhist studies. The Philippines respects the freedom of religion. The police collaborate with the Office of the Ombudsman. IV. Claire Maize from the UK wants to know the real condition of prisons. Maybe Philippines can explain about how CHRP managed to conduct unannounced visit, when talking about NHRIs roles in a better prison system. On the management of the detention centers, the investigators from the CHRP only present themselves to the prison office and they are respected and allowed. Whereas, in settings like in military camps, for instance in a military camp being radicalized, they were raided, and children were detained because they are children of communists. They are below 12 years old so they should be under the guardian custody referred to as social workers. In this instance, investigators from CHRP are not freely allowed to visit the camp controlled by military. They must 58