Ms. Nurul Izzah agreed with this stance and stated that the APPGM together with the Prison Departments and other stakeholders had conducted a Zoom Meeting with a stakeholder from Wales to address the bottle neck to be addressed from the beginning of the process. She believes that this is a great way for Malaysia to find suitable stakeholders, and to establish a working committee to looking at the impact as it helps everyone in doing their job in an efficient and cost saving manner. It involves monetary sense. Hence, we hope to start the first face after the bottleneck being addressed in Malaysia. Attorney Katherine C. said that we should look at what is the case with the Philippines justice system, the ability of law enforcement. Mr. Liew Chin Tong mentioned that police reform is needed to strengthen criminal investigations in line with the recommendations in the Report of the Royal Commission to enhance the Operation and Management of the Royal Malaysian Police83 The Police force in Malaysia had been centralized and very political since the early 1950s to combat communism under the British colonial administration. We should look at how to improve criminal investigations and to strengthen them compared to other political functions of the police. II. Question for MP YB Nurul Izzah by Mr. Dines from FMT. Is there any alternative action that MPs concerned with prison reform can take if their private member’s bills do not go through? Ms. Nurul Izzah stated that to join forces with the APGMM, but she also looks forward to the working committee of prison reform to give a clear-cut agenda like for example, the Ministry of Welfare that is concerned with the welfare of prison officers. We need parliamentary reform to enable private bills and to enable passing of the said bills. Because again when we talk about prison reform, the pandemic has raised the awareness with various stakeholders. APPGM and the committee still needs to derive the legitimacy from the Ministry. We do need to appreciate the reality and act pragmatically. She also highlighted the important role of the media fraternity in providing coverage on this issue. III. Ms. Vignes, Prison Department, we should not forget prison officers in prisons. When there are complaints about prison staffs, of course lawsuit action will be taken against prison officers. No efforts were made to clear the name of prison officers or the prison department. The impact of this is that it would hinder people from joining the prison department for being stigmatised with these complaints. Mr. Liew Chin Ting responded that parliamentarians pay attention to the morale and welfare of prison officers. The parliamentarian system does not favour a bipartisan system. As far as prison reform is concerned, we need bilateral 83 The report was prepared by Tun Mohammed Dzaiddin Bin Haji Abdullah, Chairman of the Royal Commission to Enhance the Operation and Management of the Royal Malaysian Police in 2005 65